DISCOURSES : August 21, 1940

August 21, 1940

On the subject of whether or not work for Ideal absolves one from sufferings caused by past deeds Sree Sree Thakur said:

That you will immediately reap all good fruits when you embark on right action—that is not the idea. The effect of wrong action is bound to appear first. Every action gets its effect. Nothing can stop it. But man can manipulate the situation arising out of the action and can so utilize it for the benefit of the Ideal that it cannot give rise to anything but good. The bad thing will come but will not he able to do harm. Take for instance Naren da. He burned his hands and feet in the bus that caught on fire. But he undertook such actions even in this situation that the environment was charmed. Without paying the least heed to his own burns, he started helping out others. He started elating them even in that crisis. He was able to create an atmosphere wherein those who were less injured forgot their own pains and started follow­ing Naren da’s instructions. This is how he could utilize such a serious accident for winning over his environment. This is how an adverse situation can be transformed.”

Nafar da is very unwell. Sree Sree Thakur spoke to him while sitting in the Philanthropy Office.

”There is some complex or other at the root of all illnesses. A man gets overpowered by the passion and moves accordingly; then follows the disease. If you don’t search there and do not lay your hands on that, wherever and however you may seek, whatever may be the quantity of medicine administered, nothing is of any avail. Lawgiver is one of the names of God. One cannot manage without abiding by the laws. Man submits to the life-denying laws of passion but does not go by the laws of life and happiness. That is why suffer­ing becomes inevitable.”

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DISCOURSES : July 15, 1940

July 15, 1940

On the topic of distortion of the teachings of great men in the hands of interpreters Sree Sree Thakur said jokingly, “Perhaps these couplets of mine will turn out to be very popular. May be they will be included in the school curriculum. So many commentaries will be afloat i If I am born again, I will have to read them. Perhaps I will not be able to understand the notes. Perhaps, the teachers will beat me to the point of death. Am I writing these for this purpose?”
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DISCOURSES : July 3,1940

July 3,1940

Akshoy da, Kesto da and many others were sitting inside Thakur’s room in the morning.

Sree Sree Thakur: “Better type of men are required to build up an organization. Active and sincere men of strong commonsense are suitable for organization work; only they. A feeling for the collective interest dies out in the character of an individual belonging to a passion-abiding, mean, self-seeking and enslaved people. That is why an organization cannot grow in such an atmosphere. Therefore it is now necessary to nurture the instinct for organization in every individual. Suppose someone treats you badly, immediately there should be someone ready to put pressure on him. This is called organization. Everyone should feel for everyone else. Each one should stick to his own job and at the same time help the other fellow.”

“One should develop this feeling: if anyone is affected I am also affected. He will not leave his post and crave to be some­one else out of inferiority. He will make things smooth for others by discharging his own duties with dignity. We have to be like this body system; the eye remains the eye; it does not desire to be the ear. Neither does the ear want to be the eye. Just imagine the trouble that would come if they did. Each part helps all other parts. Each goes about its own work and knows that a contravention of this law will weaken it along with the entire body system and cause eventual death. It has to be automatic to the same degree in an organization; only then can it be called an organization. And this will sprout forth naturally wherever there is unity, discipline and love for a common Ideal.”

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DISCOURSES : June 24, 1940

June 24, 1940


Kestoda and others were discussing war with Thakur who was reclining on a pillow atop a chowki (wooden bed) outside at evening. Suddenly Thakur spoke up, “If we can follow the laws of existence properly, if we can fulfill Dharma, the Uphold, in all walks of life, and if there is no deviation in this move, then this Uphold radiating a living light at every step of the way will be responsible for a world-rescue. And this is most normal -, there is nothing Utopian about it.”

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DISCOURSES : February 7, 1940

February 7, 1940

In the afternoon Thakur talked with Maulavi Sahib. “Rasul on many occasions stressed past Prophets and those that were to follow. He went so far as to say that it was not possible to name the host of Prophets that were to follow. One who tries to make a distinction among the messengers, making one small and another big, is a kafir (unbeliever). There may be five children born of the same father. Don’t you think that you belittle the father by ignoring the others and giving regard to only one of them ? If you arc not able to discover the grandfather in the grand­son, you have not seen the grandfather at all.”

“Grandfather exists in the grandson as the former prophet exists in the present one. It is the annotations that do us mischief $ they twist all that is straight. It is not difficult to believe that there is no difference in the essential facts. All the trouble starts from the artistry of interpreta­tion. There is a group who accept Khoda ( God ) but not the Rasuls. What an absurd position to take ! There are many who make difference between Hazrat Rasul, Hazrat Jesus and Hazrat Buddha. A greater mistake cannot be made.”

Maulavi Sahib listened to all with reverence and said, “All that you say is absolutely right.”

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DISCOURSES : February 5, 1940

February 5, 1940

Kestoda, Ramda, Saratda, Haripadada, Umada, Khagenda and others were sitting in Sree Sree Thakur’s room. Sree Sree Thakur did a little bit of mental figuring and said:
“It is not at all difficult for the Ritwiks and Adhwaryyus to draw a benefaction of two to four hundred rupees a month. It may turn out so that all good people will be attracted to this. Efficient people will no longer be available for salaried jobs. The work of a yaajak is much more profitable and respect­able from all standpoints than that of a sub-deputy Magistrate. Each Ritwik should have his-own staff of doctors, engineers, agriculturists, industrial experts, scientists etc. A particular area is perhaps suffering from drought.”

“That should put a bee in the bonnet of the Ritwik. His gang should immediately take to research. This group should render service to man in all possible ways ; inward, outward and at all levels. One also has the task of controlling the fund set aside for the service of environment. A total of 15,000 rupees per annum is likely to be collected in a thana where 10,000 people are daily offering. Istobhriti. If that fund is utilized for the benefit of that area, one need not fawn for favour.”

“On one occasion a canal is dug, electricity is perhaps installed on another, a school is built, industry is developed and so on. People cry themselves hoarse for independence, but if one moves on like this, independence will come without a movement for it. People will spontaneously understand what is good for them, what is advantageous to them. Each individual has the whole world to gain and nothing to lose from an arrangement and organi­zation of service directed toward the benefit of mankind and for the fulfillment of the interest at all ; even a madman understands when something good is done to him.”

“That is why I cannot under­stand how any person can have conflict with us. People used to starve and carry on some move­ment by going to prison. Try to think for a while the difference between such a movement inaugu­rated by the inflicting of suffering on oneself and the type I suggest. The leaders are not able to understand this simple thing, Try to appreciate them what a path the Aryans used to tread ! That is why the scriptures have stressed Istobhriti in so many ways. I also assert that there can be no more honourable professions than those of Ritwik, Adhwaryyu and Yaajak. Each penny is given out by man’s cordial urge. How sacred it is ! It has no comparison with the money earned by service. Juice from the date palm is a kind of liquid; so is urine. How different they are intrinsically ihough they look so much alike !”

“And in this setup you are not slave to anyone. You are under obligation to none. You are just children of the Lord. That is why the gift from me to you is better than the donation taken directly from the oblate. Under the latter arrange­ment some amount of obligation sets in. One has to serve their whims to a certain extent, and it sometimes becomes an impediment against going all out for the work of the Lord. Jajan, Jaajanr Istobhriti and Swastyayani ; this is all that the work amounts to- There is nothing else to be done. As long as the path is, as far as the eyes, go, this is the way to move on.”

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DISCOURSES : February 4, 1940

February 4, 1940


Shree Shree Thakur pointed to one of us sitting around him in the afternoon and said, “I have been telling him that whenever I feel inclined towards a man I cannot rest until I am able to make him up to my liking. I like him to come up to that standard by any means, whether by thrashing, beating or whatever. One who is not able to stand that can do nothing but fail. How cruel Ramdas Swami was to Shivaji. People were surprised to see the amount of beating Shivaji had to take. But Shivaji bore the punishment head bowed. One must have such a grit that one does not rest until all are restored to the right path by constant stinging, may death come by it or the highest peak of glory.”
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DISCOURSES : January 27, 1940.

January 27, 1940

Himaitpur (Pabna)

Sri Sri Thakur was sitting in the Philan­thropy Office. It was about ten o’clock in the morning. I was discussing supreme consciousness (Samadhi) with Kesto-da. Thakur overheard our talk and said, “Samadhi is that peculiar condition which follows integrated solution. This condition, leads a man to thinking he is completely absorbed during it. But that is not the case. When one arrives after much thinking at a complete solution, of a problem, one gets a feeling of unfathomable bliss ; one talks of absorption because one is in ecstasy. Samadhi can take place in a number of ways. One man gets it when absorbed in thoughts of his wife. Another by thinking of money etc. Phenomena have different phases. Supreme con­sciousness, a result of an impression of perfect knowledge, appears when all the phases of a universe pertaining to a particular subject reveal themselves to the perception and intellect.”

“That is why it is often said that a storehouse of know­ledge opens up through Samadhi. Mere intell­ectual solution cannot be called Samadhi. One must feel it with sensation, with being ; for which again it must be meaningful to one’s Ideal. This .Samadhi or integrated solution is followed by activity. You work out the solution obtained. Nothing in you drops off in this. You may be accustomed to visit a prostitute, to throw away pencils after using, to read and write, to serve people, to steal berries and eat them. If so, they will all remain. But they will remain with mean­ing. Whatever you know in this universe must be known as an instrument for fulfilling the interests of your Ideal. The urge to fulfill will itself open up the doors of unlimited action, unlimited knowledge and unlimited ability. Man invariably has the seed of knowledge latent in him. He comes to know whatever he is associated with. How do I talk on so many subjects ? It is all based on realized facts. And whatever I say, and however I may say it, I am talking about essentially the same thing. Lord Ramkrishna said, ‘I am not giving you all the knowledge now.’ He kept things a little closed. I am disclosing them with all clarity and this cannot be appreciated by others unless they get in touch with you. You are going to be the saviours of mankind. Those of you who are actively working with me, you are the future gurus and saviours of humanity.”
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DISCOURSES : January 27, 1940

January 27, 1940

Sri Sri Thakur was sitting on a cane stool. It was morning. Kesto-da was reading out couplets written in folk style as dictated by Thakur. Jogesh-da, Jogen-da, Biren-da and others were standing near.

Discussing the subject matter of one of the couplets, Thakur said, “Man should tell his wife after marriage, ‘Look here. To look after my parents, my brothers and sisters and all the family is your whole and sole business. I do not look for anything for myself from you.’ It is always better to look after one’s own necessities. But parents must be served -, you yourself should serve them and have others do so. If, instead of this, out of compassion for your wife you say, ‘Poor girl! Physically quite incapable of it .’ What incon­siderate parents!’ You are ruined—turned into sheep. Just think of the number of donkeys that pare the vegetables for their wives, look after the children and run errands to please them! Have they any personality ? If the wife gets the slightest cough, the husband is stopped dead in his tracks and cries, ‘I’m done for!’ At this groaning and moaning the wife understands, ‘I’ve got this bird right where I want him.’ In such a situation, instead of caving in, a husband should say, ‘You can’t lie down on the job just for a little cough. You’ve got my parents to look after.’ This sets the woman right. She thinks, ‘Well, here’s a tough nut’. Of course, if she is really sick, that is a different matter. Then one may take up the service with one’s own hands. If the wife lays obstructions in the way of one’s Ideal, it’s no use arguing or explaining. Keep firm on your path. This flattens her. Gradually she stops her twitch­ing and squirming—like a goat after sacrifice.”

“Whatever I may say, the fundamental thing remains : see to the fulfillment of your Ideal. All disorders will vanish if you are Ideal-centric. Man gets wife-centric, lost in the labyrinth of narrow, blind, passionate interests. The economic problem, disease, litigation, turmoil—these all result from it. One for whom I am the only interest, one who does for me, gets good every­where. Have I not offered several lakhs of rupees to people? Not one of these accepting has pro­gressed. They’ve all gone down.”
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DISCOURSES : December 7, 1939

December 7, 1939

Himaitpur (Pabna)

It was afternoon. Thakur was talking with a kirtan singer, Bahuballav Goswami by name.

Thakur said, “Some seed falls on rocks, some among brambles, and some on good ground. It is the same libido at work. Everything depends on where it strikes and gets set. Once it gets properly set on a Sat-Guru, the job is done.”

Pointing to one of us, Thakur said, “You with your sarcastic remarks. If you could use them for the sake of Ideal, you would be pouring honey into people’s ears. Some weep out of repentance. If they could do it for Ideal, they would flood many, to put it mildly. There is no need to curb passion and anger ; rather, the greater they wax the better. All that is necessary is to regulate–them for Ideal’s use. If they are obliterated, with what can one do the work of Ideal ? And religion too has its acid test here. ‘I worship daily, I love God ; yet my skill and agility are not what they should be. I am not enjoying an abundance of life.’ What is this ? If I fall into such a plight, I must know that there is something radically wrong with me. Whether one is looking for wealth or not, wealth is bound to embrace one who walks in the path of Ideal. Wealth that has service for its foundation is proof that a man is leading a genuinely religious life. That is why it has been said in Chaitanya Charitamrita :

‘Wealth and light pervade this world entire, For love that’s void of riches I have not least desire.’

But one who loves his Ideal in order to attain a certain position or level, or for the sake of gain­ing wealth, does not get anywhere. It is even , said, ‘The desire for liberation is the worst of all obsessions.’ Everything settles down if one’s fancy falls upon Ideal. Love for his sake sprouts in Jaajan. All spheres of the brain become active in Jaajan. Knots and obsessions built around petty desires gradually work loose.”

After a long discussion Thakur concluded, “There used to be a Bharadwaj University, Basistha University, Shandilya University, etc. These will have to he built up again for the revival of culture”. Sri Sri Thakur talked a long time to Goswami in this mood.

Afterwards Goswaini came to us and said, “I am a religious instructor to thousands. Narrating sacred litera­ture is my profession. I have seen tots of holy men and pandits. But it is for the first time that today I have understood the real import of Dharma, and I know I shall not get again such a guide in my effort for becoming. So I have decided to take initiation this very day. I have been misinterpreting many things. Now I shall have the chance to correct them.”
Sri Sri Thakur was sitting on a cane stool under a thatched shed. Kesto-da, Gopald-a and others were standing by. All of a sudden Sri Sri Thakur’s teacher came. Thakur stood up out of reverence and called for a chair. The tutor took the chair brought by Gopal-da, after which Sri Sri Thakur took his seat.

In the course of conversation Thakur said, “I used to meditate excessively. Meditation with­out activity led to some strange insensitiveness. It was as though I could feel no sensation, good or bad, happy or sorrowful. The tremor of life that had been mine left me, I became something like solid. That was a veritable hell. Then I began to put my mind to work, and then my original condition returned. Children who do not take any interest in domestic affairs, or who are otherwise not actively engaged suffer also an impairment of receptivity for studies in their brains. Those who have the urge to give something to their parents are bound to rise. In those who do not do anything for their parents and family but go about doing things for neighbors some abnormality has crept in. And over-zealous, excessive sympathy for women speaks of mere sexual throbbing.”

Sri Sri Thakur asked me, “Did you do . Swastyayani yesterday ?” I answered, “Yes.” Thakur said of me to someone standing by, “He is unable to collect oblations. He is quite incapable of it”.

Kestoda said, “Eight fetters fall off in begg­ing.”

Sri Sri Thakur : “It is very true. Collecting oblations for the Ideal builds and expands a man from within.”

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